I am not an expert on the finer points of treasury auctions but much of the foreign demand in the last few years (the kindness of strangers) has essentially been forced in the name of self interest of those strangers. The trend in indirect bidders and what we know about China in the last few months or so plays into a bigger idea that I (along with many others obviously) have been writing about which is that the US is becoming an increasingly unattractive investment destination.
Who knows if this is the big one or not but if you start to think about total indebtedness, budget deficits and the lack of will (political, social and otherwise) to make difficult choices and sacrifices then news like this should not shock you.A few years ago it was easy to buy shorter term treasuries. Yields were much higher and the fundamental situation was not the same. It was on the path to where we now are (deficits and debt were well known issues) but the housing market had not blown up yet.
If the fundamentals of an investment are not attractive and or the risk of a particular investment is greater than normal then it makes sense to simply avoid the investment, in this case treasuries, altogether. I don't think there is really anything disastrous in buying one or two year treasury paper as some sort of cash substitute but allocating some portion an investment portfolio to regular treasury debt does not seem ideal. The US won't default, the Fed will just print more money which at some point creates a different bad outcome than default.
We have TIP exposure, some exposure to short dated US corporates and some exposure to foreign sovereigns that do not make any news in this regard. Some clients own BWX (23% Japan) which will become a sell at some point if and when Japan starts to deteriorate. We are not there yet though. We also have small exposures to other fixed income things all arranged so that hopefully we are not overly vulnerable to any one thing.
We have very little exposure to muni bonds. This is something I've mentioned a few times but not often. For a while there muni yields were all higher than treasuries which I took as a warning of potential trouble. Since then the news has gotten much worse in terms of budget deficits, insolvent unemployment funds and the possibilities of seemingly drastic things like cutting emergency services at the local level.
I've written quite a few times about the short term foreign sovereigns we own. The influence is from Nassim Taleb although he favors 90% and we are less than 10%. Unfortunately the investment product landscape does not really allow for accessing this market, at least not yet, as many of the funds are heaviest in Japan which, again, is probably ok for now but will need to be addressed at some point.
If you are concerned about some of the things happening in the fixed income market there may be proxies out there that offer the volatility characteristics of traditional bond exposure even if not the traditional yield characteristics. I recently wrote an article for theStreet about the Collar Fund (COLLX). In writing that article I had a chance to talk to the manager of the fund and he brought up the point of his fund acting as a bond proxy in terms of volatility but not yield. To the extent the concept interests you you can do the research and decide for yourself about a given fund but as has been the case for a while the bond market is not quite right.
In a related albeit darkly humorous post Paco Ahlgren discloses that he is "short Treasuries, and long gold, oil, guns, ammunition, potable water, canned goods, pigs, chickens, and toilet paper." What, no beef jerky and TNT? And what about whiskey and Ivory soap?





22 comments:
I guess the facts are what the facts are, and I'm certainly not savvy enough to take issue with the conclusion. Still, I can't help but feel that there's more here than meets the eye. I don't recall much in the way of commentary from other news sources, nor any particular reaction from the market. Summers' post smacks of a pretty unvarnished pitch for his services. Having said that, your caution is warranted and welcome.
I agree with anon 7:33. But I also think that the days of U.S. treasury debt being rated AAA are coming to an end. Also, there are many municipal governments selling bonds whose creditworthiness is far, far better than Uncle Sam. I don't think it is fair to dismiss all munis with one broad sweep.
What makes me scratch my head is the concept of CDS on Treasuries. Who's backstopping the writers if the CDS?
Mark from L-Ville
"The key takeaway for me was that primary dealers (they have to buy) accounted for 47% of auction while indirect bidders (foreign demand is counted in this segment) only accounted for 28% down from 40% in past years."
Very flawed analysis on your part Roger.
Foreign buying is not down, treasury borrowing is sky high. You may view these as the same, but they are not. The problem is Keynesian clowns trying to "fix" things when all they will do is bankrupt the country and certainly our children's future.
that is a good point but if we have to issue more debt, and we do, then it seems to me we have a problem of demand does not keep up with supply.
This feels like a Burma Shave market, with a sign on every fence post.
Anon 9:49,
Excellent post!
Relevant Streetwise column by Jacqueline Doherty at Barrons.com. On the domestic front, she points out California, Illinois, and New York as being especially precarious and notes that if the US has to step in to support them, our own rating will suffer.
Probably an AIG-like entity is backstopping the CDS on US Debt. So we all know how that will end up.
It's quite similar to a service like eternal-earthbound-pets.com
"that is a good point but if we have to issue more debt, and we do, then it seems to me we have a problem of demand does not keep up with supply."
Stop buying into this bogus Keynesian premise that we have to issue more debt and bankrupt today's children.
If you are obviously taking on too much debt the solution is to stop taking on the excess debt cut spending. This is not entirely different than what YOU normally teach. The country must live within its means.
mis-worded on my part, it is clear the US is going to issue more debt, i was not intending to opine that the US should.
Seems to me that all these newly minted MBA's runnig the various investment bank departments the last 10 yrs or so, thought they were really smart with their new financial instruments. I remember my brother-in-law telling me how he was going to make millions with no risk to his bank.
Now, we are ALL paying the price. But, I still don't see our "government" forcing the issue to "get back to basics".
Who knows where the hell this will lead! (by the way, my brother-in-law has lost his house and cars, and is essentially, destitute)
If demand was too low, wouldn't interest rates rise?
"mis-worded on my part, it is clear the US is going to issue more debt, i was not intending to opine that the US should."
OK, Washington is choosing to go up the debt mountain and run our country off a cliff. The only question is - how high before we fall?
Taking on excessive amounts of debt is crazy stupid.
the 30 year yield did go up last week and is up from 4.20% in the last three years.
i never said issuing a lot of debt was a good idea.
months not years
"i never said issuing a lot of debt was a good idea."
I did not mean to imply that you did.
It is still crazy stupid for the USA, Greece, Japan, my neighbor etc. to take on excessive debt levels. I really do not care if Greece or Japan are crazy stupid, but I have to live with the results of the USA and my neighbor.
Wow, it seems to be getting harder to avoid silliness these days: Muni's more credit worthy than treasuries? Amazing. An endlessly repetitious wail that nasty Keynesians are bankrupting our children? Repeating nonsense over and over does not make it less foolish.
When federal bonds are sold, somebody buys them which generates revenue. It's not just a liability, its an asset. For some odd reason when folks feel like railing against national debt they begin their public display of ignorance by counting only one side of the national balance sheet while leaving out the other which is pretty much like arguing a person is crazy for buying a $350K house with cash down and a $300K mortgage while ignoring they make $100K a year income and own $500K in assets not including the equity they already have in the house.
The latest bond auction results could indicate a number of things from more willingness to diversify into risk assets to a growing shortage of revenue in other countries with which to buy US debt to a genuine aversion to holding more US debt which in turn could be related to a need to buy more debt of other trading partners all the way to a considered opinion by a foreign central bank that the US dollar will begin falling again and better deals await. Or it could just be noise, a single weak auction.
Anyone genuinely concerned about this for something other than idle chit-chat or mere confirmation of prejudice has some serious due dilli ahead of them.
Anon 2:17
Yes lets just keep increasing the national debt until we are MEGA WEALTHY - what BS
Yes, munis more credit worthy than treasuries...based on actual revenue to outstanding debt.
Hope and change, indeed.
The bond bubble may turn out to be the biggest bubble of them all. I don't see the point of investing in US Treasuries given where yields are - but we can't just stuff all our money in mattresses?
I've been tempted to short a Treasury ETF, but given my overly contrarian nature I hate any trade that seems too obvious.
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